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blackravin said:

Would you guys mind if I post the above video on my forum?

Serg. (a.k.a. Blackravin/elcuervo) ;D

Sergio,
It is ok to post the video on your forum.

On the side note, I think you you go to Zacateca Mx on and off, beside Zacatega city, do you go to Fresnillo city and know about the school call Mano De Dragon?

Seming

[blackravin]

Zacatecas not to often, go more to Zamora, Michoacan.. But I have heard of the school. I have heard others mention them positively, but haven't really tried to contact them.

Have you had a chance to make contact with them? It's always good to see how far Ng Ga Kuen has reached.. I have met a few as far as Puebla and Oaxaca.. It really amazes me...


Sergio

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blackravin said:

Zacatecas not to often, go more to Zamora, Michoacan.. But I have heard of the school. I have heard others mention them positively, but haven't really tried to contact them.

Have you had a chance to make contact with them? It's always good to see how far Ng Ga Kuen has reached.. I have met a few as far as Puebla and Oaxaca.. It really amazes me...


Sergio

Sergio,
Thanks,the school already under my direction since last January, the chief instructor of the schools came to USA and trained with me for a week. I asked you just for a personal reason. Five Family school in Oaxaca was recuited by Tigre Negro 2 years ago, they came through the "war zone" at 2006 to meet me in Culiacan. Their late master is "Little Louie", unfortunately he passed away few years ago, a big lost for them and Ng Ga Kuen; little Louie was from the Daly school.

Seming

This video is for everyone; Sergio, You could post it in your forum too.

www.kungfu5family.com/Internal003.wmv

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Sifu Seming

The form is Lien Huan Wu Hsing(the 5 element linked form) of Hebei hsing I Chuan (5 elements and 12 animals) the Sifu Monk do it very compact....without any too much show off stuff....He do it just for demo not showing the complete motion.....thats a great video.......The chi kung stuff are more Physical theory .....but thats need a good training too....

Thank

Ur Ng ga form is the best performance


Steeve

[mark]

Hello Everyone,

Thanks for all of your insights. I'm enjoying this forum very much.

Sifu Seming, I received the 2007-2008 catalog from Unique Publications and I tried to purchase your two DVD's. Unfortunately their phone numbers were all screwed-up. Every new number they gave me the people on the other end didn't have a clue of what I was talking about. This was early fall when I tried. I don't have the catalog handy, but if I remember correctly, the name of the form was Five Element Fist? I don't remember ever hearing about this form. Did I remember correctly? I have continued to check IKF magazine and I haven't seen it advertised.

Mark

[mark]

Hi steeve,
I know you live in Ottawa. How far is that from Toronto? Do you know much about Sifu Lore King- Hong's Hung Kuen?

Thanks,

Mark

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mark said:

Hello Everyone,

Thanks for all of your insights. I'm enjoying this forum very much.

Sifu Seming, I received the 2007-2008 catalog from Unique Publications and I tried to purchase your two DVD's. Unfortunately their phone numbers were all screwed-up. Every new number they gave me the people on the other end didn't have a clue of what I was talking about. This was early fall when I tried. I don't have the catalog handy, but if I remember correctly, the name of the form was Five Element Fist? I don't remember ever hearing about this form. Did I remember correctly? I have continued to check IKF magazine and I haven't seen it advertised.

Mark

Hi Mark,
IKF finished the DVD cover/case production without my final Ok, too late for them to correct the system name; it should be 5 Family Fist which = 5 Family Style = Ng Ga Kuen. In this case, the 5 elements are punch, palm, block, stance, and kick Vol #1 is small cross w/ application, Vol #2 is combination w/application. You could order them here
www.budovideos.com/shop/customer/home.php?cat=331

Seming

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Mark

In Fact the videos of Sifu Seming are name the 5 elements ......Wu Hsing....Fist ...its the same of the 5 families....the number 5 ....Stance (footwork),punch,block(defense),Kick and open hands (palms )

here we dont talk about grappling and takedown thats a parts of each others(I mean some stance or footwork teach some takedown .....some punch or block could be used for takedown some open hands could be used for grappling and so on)

like the 5 elements Water,wood,fire,Metal and earth.....Chinese use a lot of this stuff take from TCM (medecine) or Philosophy........for look good ;D

In the video ....if I remimber you could see the Salute ,Small cross(Siu Sup Jee) and the combinaition(wun hop kuen)...........the five elements are the Small cross,butterfly,combinaition,black bird and the palm....

5 families ....5 Elements...its the same

Sorry my english is not very good hope you understood me

Sincerely

Steeve

[mark]

Hi Sifu Seming,

Thank you very much. I plan on ordering soon. :)In the ad you resembled your Grandfather very much. I bet he is very proud of you and how you have continued on with 5 Family Kung-Fu.

Mark

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Mark

Mark is around 4 to 5 hours of Toronto for me at 140 km/hres around 3 to 4 I joke


Yes I know about Sifu James Lore(Lore king Hong) chief instructor of jing mo kung fu club (Toronto) .....in The Hung kuen or Hung Chia .....thats a very good Hung Pai......different of the modern Hung gar

Do you train in his School?...Do you know Sifu Jopet Laraya
Now he move from Toronto area....Do you know about GM Lao Kim?

Are you a English Canadian Who dont write or talk any french words ....Im french Canadian aand I could do it in English ;D


Steeve

[blackravin]

That's great I had heard somethng like that early last year.. I had heard they were looking for some direction on how to asimilate more to the 5 family system as it is done here..

I am sorry to hear about Little Louie, do you have any pictures of him.. I'm not good at names, but can always remember a face..

By any chance do you remember Abel from Guadalajara, he training at the Daly street school as well.. He was their for about 4 to 5 years in the early 80's and trained quiet a bit with Sifu Luie Martinez.. He was always dressed in old traditional kung fu suits whever he went.. He was a natural when it came to kung fu and learned extremely fast.. People would always mistake him for being Chinese... The last I heard he had moved back to Mexico once he finished his training.. I will see if I have a picture of him somewhere and will post it on this forum..

As for Oaxaca, I don't remember the name that contacted me in the early years of the forum, but I know they were also looking for guidance.. Great to hear they are part of Tigre Negro..

BlackRavin

[blackravin]

It really is increidible how Ng Ga Kuen Mexico expanded in Mexico.. Everytime I turn I have a message from a school who wants to reach back and make contact.. I always tell them I am just a student, but can help them anyway I can.. Some still contact me and some drift away, once they see that the forms are really different from what they are doing.. But still none the less it is increidible how much kung fu has taken hold south of the border.

BlackRavin

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Mark

Yes .....more sifu Seming go old more he look like GM wong

Sorry my english is not very good here Je suis Francais du Quebec....mais je fais my best to talk English .....

Steeve

[mark]

Hi Steeve,

I think you do pretty well with your English. But why so many e e e e e's in your name. ;D I feel like I already know you after all the posts I've read of yours over the years. I have a niece who is a French teacher, so you can give me a detailed report and I'll have her translate. ;D

On a serious note, I first read about Sifu Lore King- Hong's Hung Kuen in the May/June 2003 edition of Kung-Fu magazine. Philip H.J. DaviesPh.D. wrote an article entitled Hung Kuen in the Great White North. I googled Sifu Lore King- Hong and from that became aware of Sifu Glen Doyle. I purchased his DVD from the Fun-To-Know series and really liked it. It was very similar to many of the Southern Shaolin forms from the Kwan Ying Do system. I have always favored S. Shaolin, just a personal preference. I have learned a lot about Master Lao Kim's Hung Kuen as well. Yes, I am aware of Jopet Laraya. I know he trained with Master Lao Kim and also Sifu Lore King-Hong. By the way, I LOVE Master Lao Kims's YouTube video.

I live in the U.S.A.( Ohio) but am originally from Buffalo, N.Y.

Mark

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blackravin said:

That's great I had heard somethng like that early last year.. I had heard they were looking for some direction on how to asimilate more to the 5 family system as it is done here..

I am sorry to hear about Little Louie, do you have any pictures of him.. I'm not good at names, but can always remember a face..

By any chance do you remember Abel from Guadalajara, he training at the Daly street school as well.. He was their for about 4 to 5 years in the early 80's and trained quiet a bit with Sifu Luie Martinez.. He was always dressed in old traditional kung fu suits whever he went.. He was a natural when it came to kung fu and learned extremely fast.. People would always mistake him for being Chinese... The last I heard he had moved back to Mexico once he finished his training.. I will see if I have a picture of him somewhere and will post it on this forum..

As for Oaxaca, I don't remember the name that contacted me in the early years of the forum, but I know they were also looking for guidance.. Great to hear they are part of Tigre Negro..

BlackRavin

Sergio,
Little Louie is the boy w/formal uniform doing the blackbird and combination in this video. His father was a student too. We called Louie Martinez as "big Louie".
www.kungfu5family.com/CalPolytourny.wmv
I don't think I know Abel, I think he jointed the school during my time off from the school, a picture might help my memory

Seming