mic
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Post by mic on Apr 17, 2010 12:43:31 GMT -5
Here is Gary's answer to my question:
When that happens ( And it happens to all of us.). Go back about 5 moves and then repeat that sequence 3 - 5 times . Then move on. Think about the technique as you do the moves.
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Post by Gary Steuer on Dec 27, 2010 21:32:38 GMT -5
Someone grabs you around your left wrist , trying to stop you or force you to resist. You turn your arm so that your palm is facing up , or you try to , but nothing is happening for you .... RELAX , Don't look at your hand ! Look at the person holding you ! Try to make eye contact . Now , don't pull away . Stay closer than arm's distance from the person. Relax , breathe out and turn your palm up quickly . If you have done that , then now you are in control ! There are so many different things that can be done from this point that it would all depend on where you are in connection to the person , what is around you , who is around you , space available for a technique , etc.. One example to try is this . It is your left wrist that was grabbed . The person grabbed you with their right hand. Step in and over to their right side. Step first with your left foot , close to their right foot, and then turn your body to face in the direction that they are facing , and at the same time bring your right foot in and slighlty behind your left foot. Now , at the same time relax , and turn your left palm up , while pointing and concentrating on the extended index finger of your left hand. Now slide your right hand under your left arm , and up to your left hand , fingers extended , Right hand under your left hand , between your right index finger & your right thumb..... Grab hold of their right wrist and step under their right arm , leading with your left foot . Now turn your body to the right after stepping under and step in and through with your right foot . At the same time , while still holding their right wrist , pull your arms towards the ground , while pointing your right index finger to the ground............... Was that complicated ? I've never tried to write it out before .... Let me know.... Tell me where it became unclear.... Thanks !
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Post by jingwah on Dec 30, 2010 0:27:08 GMT -5
Hi Gary
it is pretty clear but you will have to stand up and visualize...I like the concentration points...I think it is several familiar moves...nice brain twister!
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Post by Gary Steuer on Dec 30, 2010 21:02:10 GMT -5
Very Good............. Now try to visualize someone , and think of a move they might use on you . Tell me what it is and what you would do ..........
PS.... Happy New Year to Everyone who reads this forum !
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Post by jingwah on Dec 31, 2010 1:06:30 GMT -5
OK
I think this is close. Two of the guys at work were playing around. One of them had his detachable bicycle seat in his hands. He stood flat-footed in a weak square horse and pretended to try and conk the other guy over the head with the seat held in two hands. An overhead chopping motion. The second guy (an army vet with recent war experience) moved to block it with a straight elbow block (karate style) that would have taken the blow right on the elbow. I saw myself stepping in and holding both elbows and just walking forward. The guy with the seat is slight and trapping the elbows and either kneeing him or stepping behind him would throw him down...
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jay
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Post by jay on Jan 7, 2011 18:37:01 GMT -5
We watched Ark Wong on DVD and I noticed when he punches they start at the waist and after the hand rotates, it looks like the back of the fist rises almost in line with the top of the shoulder. Is there any reason for that?
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Post by Gary Steuer on Jan 9, 2011 4:43:52 GMT -5
There are 2 ways to develop power in a movement. One is to strike down towards the ground , the other is to screw the movement as it is rising. . This will develop more pseed and strengthens the arm as it strikes.. Try hitting a bag using different techniques and see which is more powerful. Try a hooking blow , even a kick , and just before making contact , turn your body in the direction of the strike .. Remember to pivot your feet...........
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Post by palmdown on Mar 14, 2011 15:00:37 GMT -5
I've moved this from the "Hello" board and modified it slightly.
Stances, yes—everything starts from the horse stance. But d**n—that's a hard stance to stay in. The longest I lasted in a horse stance was just under half an hour. Given the way my legs have aged since the Seventies, what's the best way to practice standing? Maybe practice moving to and from left/right horse stances. Any advice, Gary?
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Post by Gary Steuer on Mar 16, 2011 5:03:58 GMT -5
My advice would be to check the folder " Hello. " ... I just posted a answer there .........
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Post by Gary Steuer on Mar 16, 2011 21:03:54 GMT -5
When I was learning my forms at the old school on Ord st. in Chinatown L.A. , there was a student who complained that the floor space was too small to do certain forms correctly . GM Wong heard him , and asked him " How much room you need ?" Then GM Wong shook his head and smiled , explaining that in time of need , things are not always perfect and you have to make do with what you have. He explained the importance of doing the form correctly . If the form was not exactly as it was taught then there would be a problem , as your movement would not be able to flow into other moves that would logically follow..... Then GM Wong showed us that the most widespread form could be done in a area the size of the area you would practice your square horse.......... The idea was to shift feet and balance to flow from onw move to the other........... Watching people do forms on youtube is eye opening as you can see the moves , regardless of style that don't flow and would not work if they had to .. I saw a young student doing a high kick and pivot on his standing foot so that he could kick in four directions ,,, without his kicking foot touch the ground.. He won the form competition ! That was when I stopped going to these absurd competitions and watch people being judged on performance by those that had no experience in what it was to stay alive in a life or death situation ! What was important was how you pleased the unknowing crowd.... Kind of like a gymnastic competion with people wearing martial arts uniforms ! Let me know what you think......
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jay
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Post by jay on Mar 17, 2011 2:42:54 GMT -5
When we were young it was all external. Now that we are older we need to add the internal. When I'm in my square horse stance, I tuck in my hips, push my knees outward to be round, sink my weight from the waist down (like dead weight) and lift the spine as if stretching upward, the shoulder blades slightly pulled back. It allows me to be more relaxed to hold it longer. When I get tired I shift left or right or do cat stances. When I do my forms, I like to go slow so I can feel my stances being correct.
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Post by Gary Steuer on Apr 28, 2011 7:05:51 GMT -5
Hi Jay , I know you'll see this post , sooo, I need your help.... Take a form that has been done by someone that is shown on the internet and pay attention to either the beginning , or the end of the form , and try to show the two fists coming together and then turning in and rolling up , and then stepping back.......... Then ........... Show the clip ofr GM Ark Y. Wong doing the same movement and show how that same movement is supposed to done.......... Hopefully this will make others check or question the application of what they are doing.......... Your our tech guy Jay, so have a try ....
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jay
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Post by jay on Apr 29, 2011 16:07:43 GMT -5
Hi Gary, I will search and post some videos to show the difference. As for now, I can generally say that the effectiveness of the application depends on physical structure and timing. Without them, the movement will be empty. Jay
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Post by jay on May 1, 2011 19:48:21 GMT -5
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Post by Gary Steuer on May 1, 2011 20:49:20 GMT -5
Good example Jay.... I hope people realize that the forms GM Wong does on videos , etc , is cut short and most blocks are not done for the reason that he didn't want people to watch & copy.... I've seen forms done by people that were exactly done as he did on the videos............ Smart man....
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